The Other S-Word: Let’s Talk About Suicide (Ep.86)

Guests are: Karlyn Nelson and Michelle Post

Karlyn Nelson

Survivor of Suicide Loss | Breast Cancer Warrior | Realtor

Michelle Post, M.A., is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (MFC 40198) with nearly 20 years of experience providing counseling and psychotherapy to clients in the greater Los Angeles area

According to the NIMH, People with schizophrenia have a much higher rate of suicide than the larger population: People with schizophrenia have a 10% rate of suicide compared with the larger population’s 1.3%rate of suicide. 

Suicide is the biggest reason for the decreased life expectancy of people with schizophrenia. 

A larger number of people with schizophrenia contemplate suicide. Around 40–79% of people with schizophrenia have reported having suicidal thoughts.

Saddest fact is that it is at the time of improved insight that most attempts are made. ie. when the person has finally moved past anosognosia and realizes his plight it is with improved understanding that this decision is made.

We Ask:

1. What is an “emotional heart attack”/
2. What are "The Five Things" when dealing with suicide loss in the family?:

1. Get help yourself (best indicator of how well a child does after the death of a parent is how well the surviving parent copes… so if only one can get help, needs to be the parent).
2. Use truthful and clear info about the cause of death and explain it in child terms – let the child lead with questions – do not over load them with info.  They will need different info as they age
3. Acknowledge and validate a child’s feelings
   1. Reassure them they are not to blame
   2. Address their fears and anxieties
4. Encourage them to continue routine activities, structure gives them a sense of security
5. Include them in as many memorial / activities around the illness, injury, and death as they choose.
   1. Prepare them
   2. Let them make an informed decision
   3. Share info and allow participation
   4. Debrief with them.

3. What can be done for suicide  prevention?

LINKS:

Suicide hotline: 988

https://postfamilycounseling.com/

https://www.instagram.com/karlynnelson/

https://didihirsch.org/wp-content/uploads/Manual_for_Support_Groups_for_Survivors_of_Suicide_Attempts.pdf

This is the link to the manual for survivors of suicide attempt groups, and training can be made available throug

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